Showing posts with label north Korean Iranian cooperation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label north Korean Iranian cooperation. Show all posts

Thursday, February 21, 2013

Poll: 99% of Americans View Iran Developing a Nuclear Weapon as a Threat


The Kim Family Regime is going to be upset that 99%  of Americans think Iran is a threat and only 97% view north Korea as a threat.  I am sure the regime is going to go for that last 3% so they can surpass Iran and boost its ego and ensure 100% of Americans think of the north as THE threat!!
V/R
Dave

By Zachary Keck

February 21, 2013
new poll released by Gallup has found that Americans view Iran and North Korea’s nuclear programs as the greatest security threat their country faces.

99% of respondents characterized the development of nuclear weapons by Iran as a threat to the United States, with 83% saying it was a “critical threat” and 16% saying it was “important but not critical.” Only one percent of respondents said it was not an important threat.

The U.S. and its allies accuse Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian program, a charge Tehran vehemently denies.

83% of respondents also said that the development of nuclear weapons by North Korea’s nuclear program was a critical threat to the United States, with 14% saying it was important but not critical and three percent saying it was unimportant.
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Tuesday, February 19, 2013

FEARS RISE ABOUT IRAN – NORTH KOREA NUCLEAR CONNECTION


I received the following very perceptive speculation about the north's next move in response to the article below.  My response to him follows:
     I wonder if this is a high-stakes scam?  N.K. reportedly told China yesterday that they intended to conduct two more nuclear tests in 2013 if direct talks with the U.S arent't held.  Suppose Iran did pay NK for witnessing this previous test.  NK threatens to conduct two more in 2013 without direct talks.  The U.S. or China, etc. pay them not to and NK/Iran split the proceeds.
I think the mafia-like crime family of the Kim regime is all about high stakes scams.  I think your assessment is entirely plausible.  The missile and nuclear tests have advanced their programs and demonstrated their will to act in the face of sanctions and international condemnation.  Now just the threat of another test could lead to some kind of concessions (and remember one of the fundamental reasons for provocations is to gain political and economic concessions) in order to prevent another test.  Ironically there are some that will be patting themselves on the back if some kind of agreement is reached that will prevent a 4th test because they will believe that diplomacy has prevailed when instead we could be feeding right into the regime's hands.  I think the north knows how to give us what we think we want and is surely masterful at trading away nothing of their own in return for concessions.  They probably have no need to conduct further tests at the moment but the threat of such tests could cause us to act in exactly the way they want.  And we would not do so had they not conducted the missile and nuclear tests.  I think the Iran connection is also extremely useful in increasing our sense of urgency and the desire to do something to prevent further nuclear tests (and also advancing the Iranian regime's nuclear program).  I think that what this could indicate is that the north knows us better than we know the north.
V/R
Dave


FEARS RISE ABOUT IRAN – NORTH KOREA NUCLEAR CONNECTION

DID IRAN PAY NORTH KOREA MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ATTEND TEST FOR RESEARCH REASONS?

 February 18, 2013


Iran paid North Korea tens of millions of dollars to witness the most recent nuclear test, Japanese news agency Kyodo reported this weekend.

According to Kyodo’s source, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad approved the payment in November after a meeting of his national security team. The pay-to-view request was reported to have come from the head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization,  Fereydoon Abbasi-Dabani, an individual who was also present at the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on cooperation in science, technology and education between North Korea and Iran last September.

Despite the allegation, Kyodo said it is unclear whether the Iranian scientists actually witnessed the test. However, the unnamed diplomatic source was quoted as saying the proposal casts further doubt on Iran’s claims that its nuclear program is peaceful. He added it would be “very worrying” if Iran got nuclear test knowhow from North Korea.

Separate reports in The Sunday Times said the test was allegedly witnessed by the “father of Iran’s nuclear program” Mohsen Fakhrizadeh-Mahabadi. That the Iranian payment was supposedly made through the Bank of Kunlun in Beijing may bolster American calls for increased sanctions related to North Korea’s financial transactions, along the lines of measures taken against Banco Delta Asia in 2005.
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Ahmadinejad puts up N. Korean-educated man for key post


Hmmm…  Not sure I would want to learn how to run a state like north Korea is run….unless I only want to focus on how to keep a regime in power and a people enslaved.
V/R
Dave

Ahmadinejad puts up N. Korean-educated man for key post
Mohammad Hasan Nami has doctorate in state management from Kim Il-Sung University, was once Iran’s Joint Chiefs of Staff
By AP and TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFF February 19, 2013, 1:44 am 0



Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad flashes the victory sign as he attends the 12th summit of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation in Cairo, Egypt, Wednesday, Feb. 6 (Photo credit: AP/Amr Nabil)

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has nominated a North Korean-educated former Iranian military official for a key post in his government.

The official IRNA news agency reported that Mohammad Hasan Nami has been named as the proposed Minister of Communications and Information Technology to parliament, and will now face a vote of confidence he is likely to pass.

Nami holds a doctorate degree in state management from Kim Il-Sung University in Pyongyang, North Korea. He is also a former deputy defense minister and Iran’s ex-deputy Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Army.

IRNA’s Monday report says Nami is fluent in English and is the man behind an Iranian national intranet project.

The West suspects Iran and North Korea of collaborating on nuclear projects.

It was reported Sunday night that the man whom Western intelligence agencies believe may very well be the head of Iran’s clandestine nuclear weapons program was present as an observer last week when North Korea carried out a critical nuclear test

According to a British Sunday Times report Mohsen Fakhrizadeh-Mahabadi very rarely leaves Iranian soil due to fear that the Mossad will make an attempt on his life, following an alleged pattern of previous assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists.
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Monday, February 18, 2013

Iran 'Paid Millions for Ringside Seat at N.Korean Nuke Test'


Should we be surprised?  I am sure north Korea charges fees for everything.  The nuclear program is a money maker on so many levels for the regime.
V/R
Dave

Iran 'Paid Millions for Ringside Seat at N.Korean Nuke Test'

Iranian scientists witnessed North Korea's latest nuclear test last Tuesday, a western diplomatic source has told Japan's Kyodo News.

Kyodo on Friday reported that Tehran asked in November for Iranian scientists to be allowed to witness the nuclear test and offered to pay tens of millions of U.S. dollars.

According to the source, the suggestion came from Iran's vice president and chief of the country's nuclear agency in a national security meeting with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and senior ministers on Nov. 22 last year. Ahmadinejad authorized that the payment be made through Bank of Kunlun in Beijing.

Kyodo said it is unclear whether the Iranian scientists actually witnessed the test.

The unnamed source was quoted as saying the proposal casts further doubt on Iran's claims that its nuclear program is peaceful. He added it would be "very worrying" if Iran got nuclear test knowhow from North Korea.
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Thursday, January 3, 2013

From Unha to Shahab: Contextualizing Notions of Iranian Help with North Korea’s Missile Launch


An interesting excerpt:

The relationship between North Korea and Iran is often a triangular one. China has played a major role since at least the Iran-Iraq War, when Beijing profitedfrom the conflict by selling arms to third parties such as the DPRK, which would then resell said weaponry to Tehran. China, by design or not, has played a role in the connections between the DPRK and the Islamic Republic. In 1986, China first attempted to shift blame the DPRK for sales of its HY-2 antiship cruise missiles to the Islamic Republic. Though some of the cruise missiles may have come from the DPRK, U.S. intelligence agencies were supposedly able to show that China had also been a supplier for the Islamic Republic.
V/R
Dave
From Unha to Shahab: Contextualizing Notions of Iranian Help with North Korea’s Missile Launch



Technical style drawing of Unha-3 / Shahab – 6 via Michael Vick at Global Security.org


Jende Huang applies his arms control expertise toward wondering how North Korea went so quickly from “failure to achieve orbit” in April to a surprise December launch one cold morning when the rest of the world thought that technical difficulties once again reigned at the launch pad in North Pyong’an province. Every time North Korea adds another charge to their international rap sheet, there are allegations (and usually some hard proof) that they had outside help. Here at SinoNK, we have examined previous similar allegations by deconstructing tropesmanaging information fall out and even looked atdisarming dreams.

Unha-3 (은하 3 호/银河 3号) looks, functions and shares many characteristics of Iran’s Shahab-6. However, all rockets battle the same challenges when trying to puncture the atmosphere and slip the surly bonds of gravity so there are always going to be certain characteristics in common.

Technological questions matter, but so too to questions of theocracy and cultural understanding. If Iranians really are in DPRK, or DPRK scientists in Iran, what kinds of Status of Forces Agreements are there in case one side breaks a law? How are religious issues reconciled? How is halal food procured in North Korea? And so many more questions; enough for another article. In any event, the case of how the North Koreans pulled off this amazing technological feat in less time than one human gestational cycle may also have indirect and intersecting pathways. –Roger Cavazos, Coordinator

From Unha to Shahab: Contextualizing Notions of Iranian Help with North Korea’s Missile Launch

by Jende Huang

With the successful 12 December 2012 launch of the DPRK’s Unha-3 rocket—and its apparently non-transmitting satellite—into orbit, renewed focus has turned to how the DPRK was able to so quickly learn from their failed 5 April 2012 launch attempt. Many are turning to Iranian involvement as a possible explanation. In early December, Arms Control Wonk noted a Japanese media report stating that the Iranians had agreed to put four weapons experts in a military facility to assist the North Koreans. According to the news report, the DPRK and the Islamic Republic had signed Memorandums of Understanding(MOU) in September, and signed a separate agreement to place the Iranian personnel in North Korea.

The Iranian-DPRK Triumvirate | This MOU, and the notion that Iranian technicians might be stationed in the DPRK, is best interpreted as part of a much larger pattern of activity between the two countries that stretch back decades. The DPRK and Iran had established diplomatic ties in 1973, but the rise to power of the Aytollah and the subsequent Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988) appears to have solidified the already blossoming relationship between the two nations.
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Saturday, December 15, 2012

What North Korea's rocket launch tells us about Iran's role


I think some will say that this report has the Iranian-north Korean cooperative relationship reversed.  But we should be very clear that regardless of who is helping whom and who is developing the technology there is definitely Iranian-north Korean cooperation and collaboration.
V/R
Dave

What North Korea's rocket launch tells us about Iran's role
Tom Gjelten with NPR | December 14th, 2012, 11:30am


U.S. officials say the satellite put into orbit by North Korea's rocket launch this week is wobbling, but that doesn't necessarily mean the launch itself was unsuccessful.

U.S. analysts say the North Koreans' main goal was not to put a satellite into orbit, but just to see all three stages of their rocket work, to show that the rocket could carry its payload a long distance. That it did. In the last test, in April, the first rocket stages worked as designed, but the third stage failed. Charles Vick, a missile expert at GlobalSecurity.org, credits the North Koreans with learning from their past mistakes.

"They have demonstrated not merely an ability to identify problems, but to resolve those problems and get the total system to work together, all three stages working as a single launch vehicle," he said.
So, the North Koreans are making progress.

Iran's Role
Next question: What, if anything, did this launch mean for Iran?
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Thursday, December 13, 2012

How Obama Got North Korea Wrong


A pretty provocative assessment by Michael Mazza.  Of course if his recommended course of action had been executed it would have also deprived Iran of a missile capability.

President Obama made a serious error when he failed to order that the rocket launched in April be shot down — if not destroyed on the launch pad, admittedly a highly provocative act. Had he done so, he would have deprived the North Koreans of the lessons it learned from that missile’s failure and we might not be where we are today. In fact, had the president established a new precedent — the United States simply does not allow North Korea to conduct unfettered missile tests — he might have quickly made such tests a thing of the past.

If President Obama was mistaken in not adopting a more proactive approach in April, he was negligent in failing to do so this time around. New circumstances in North Korea virtually screamed for a novel approach in responding to the missile launch.

But the bottom line mistake that has been made by ROK, US and international policymakers and strategists is the flawed strategic assumption that the Kim Family Regime can or would change its behavior in response to carrots and sticks. We must understand north Korea as it really exists.  Michael makes some good comments about regime legitimacy and the importance of a successful missile launch to its myth of international strength.  

But I just wonder if the north did not execute a deception operation to guard against its missile from being shot down.  Did the extension of the launch window and the announcement of technical problems cause a reduction in readiness?  It has been reported that after the launch window was extended the ROK military alert status was reduced.  I doubt this would have affected US military readiness and of course we do not know if there was even a plan and authorization to shoot it down at all,  but again I just wonder if the north was executing a planned deception operation as a precaution.  We should know the deception is a key aspect of north Korean military strategy and operations.
VR
Dave

By Michael Mazza

December 13, 2012

Just hours ago North Korea successfully tested what many consider to be intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) technology, underscoring the failure of two decades of U.S. policy. How Washington expected to halt Pyongyang’s missile development program without taking serious steps to do so remains a mystery. While ineffective policies date back to the previous Bush and Clinton administrations, the current administration bears its fair share of the blame.

President Obama made a serious error when he failed to order that the rocket launched in April be shot down — if not destroyed on the launch pad, admittedly a highly provocative act. Had he done so, he would have deprived the North Koreans of the lessons it learned from that missile’s failure and we might not be where we are today. In fact, had the president established a new precedent — the United States simply does not allow North Korea to conduct unfettered missile tests — he might have quickly made such tests a thing of the past.

But for whatever reason, when Pyongyang launched its rocket in April, the president chose to stick to an old playbook full of defensive formations that has never given North Korea pause. The State Department unwittingly admitted last week that the old approach — stern warnings before a launch, stepped up sanctions after — has all but failed. As spokesman Mark Toner explained at last Wednesday’s press briefing, “there’s always ways to toughen enforcement of sanctions. They can always be tweaked or modified so that there’s better enforcement of existing sanctions.”

In other words, existing sanctions are porous and have failed to stop North Korea from developing its missile technology. Mr. Toner was right to assert that present sanctions enforcement can be strengthened, but there is little reason to believe that China, Kim’s favorite enabler, will acquiesce in any effort to do so. Indeed, following Wednesday’s demonstration that North Korea is closer to acquiring the capacity to strike the United States, Beijing merely expressed “regret” that the test had occurred and appealed for “calm” from all sides, while making it a point to emphasize that “the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea has the right to make peaceful use of outer space,” albeit a restricted one in light of relevant UN Security Council resolutions.

If President Obama was mistaken in not adopting a more proactive approach in April, he was negligent in failing to do so this time around. New circumstances in North Korea virtually screamed for a novel approach in responding to the missile launch.

First, the Kim regime may actually be less stable today than it was back in April. Top military officers have continued to be purged since the summer, and, according to some estimates, Kim has now purged at least 31 top military officers since taking control of the country after the death of his father a year ago. While that suggests Kim has sufficient authority over personnel choices, it also suggests he may be struggling to find lieutenants he can trust. Reports that Kim goes nowhere without conspicuous armed guards and that he has stepped up repression of the hungry masses point to an insecure leader uncertain of his own safety.

Second, this launch marked the shortest-ever interval between North Korean long-range missile tests. The four previous tests occurred in 1998, 2006, 2009, and April 2012. The decision to conduct a second test this year may have indicated that the young Kim is desperate to consolidate his power over the military. But the stepped-up testing frequency also suggests Pyongyang is actually serious about developing a functioning intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), instead of simply using occasional tests to extract aid concessions from the international community. That the North’s rocket scientists apparently determined the causes of the April test’s failure and corrected those flaws should tell us that they are not to be underestimated.

Shooting the missile down would have undermined what is perhaps the regime’s greatest myth — that it is powerful and feared abroad. Now, that myth has been reinforced. Intercepting the rocket in flight might also have sown dissension within the ruling clique, as military and party leaders could not have helped but notice that the United States had never taken such bold action when Kim Jong-il was alive. But in sticking to the old script, Washington passed up an opportunity to destabilize the regime, a necessity if America’s ultimate goal is to reunify the Korean Peninsula under Seoul’s democratic leadership.
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Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Commentary on north Korean Capabiltiies


Some very important comments from Dr. Bechtol regarding north Korean capabilities:


There is, already, some semi-accurate information being disseminated - just hours after the (what appears to be) successful test launch of the Taepo Dong 2.  How very fascinating!

I heard a CNN reporter early this morning talk about how the North Koreans may still face issues with "re-entry technology."

Not exactly.

They already have the the technology.  I guess he does not realize that one needs such technology for other ballistic missiles (successfully tested by the NK's), such as the Musudan.

He also stated that accuracy will "be a problem."

Again, not exactly.

Not likely to be a concern for the North Koreans.  If they hit Oahu (something they have just proven they can do), they have an 75% chance of hitting a population center (3/4 of the island is heavily populated now).  Even if the missile is only equipped with a chemical warhead - and not a nuke - they would be able to create casualties (mostly civilians) in the thousands.

This is a big deal.

There are three major issues that the North Koreans must overcome (of course not widely discussed in reporting yet - but hopefully soon):

- Launching the missile by avoiding a preemptive strike.  A difficult measure right now for the North Koreans, since everything is out in the open and the Americans could destroy the missile well before it is launched.  The North Koreans will need to either develop a mobile launcher and/or site, or a covert site where we cannot detect launch preparations ahead time (as we can now).

-  Placing a nuclear payload on the missile.  It is unclear if the North Koreans have stablized the platform to the point that they could place a nuclear warhead on the missile.  In fact, it is unlikely that they have been able to do so yet.  Their big challenge now will be fitting a nuclear warhead to a Taepo Dong 2.  If they are (so far) unable to do so, the likely alternative is a chemical payload - a much easier proposition. 
-  Proliferating the missile to Iran.  The Taepo Dong 2 is so big that it would likely have to be sent to Iran in stages if transported by aircraft.  Because of PSI (Proliferation Security Initiative) it will be difficult to fly aircraft to Iran without having to pass through the airspace of nations who would force it down.  One alternative of course, is to fly through China and then south to Iran.  The question is, will the Chinese allow this (as they did with HEU parts and No Dong missiles going back and forth to Pakistan during the 1990s until 2002)?  Alternatively, the North Koreans could use maritime means to transport the missiles to Iran.  This has proven to be dicey at times as well (largely, again, because of PSI), but the North Koreans have proven to be quite clever in their use of tactics, techniques, and procedures for getting around international counter-proliferation.
Best Wishes,
Bruce

Monday, December 10, 2012

Iranian experts at N Korea’s rocket site: report


I received these comments along with the article below from Dr. Bruce Bechtol who arguably studies this problem more than any Korean scholar and knows more about the north Korea-Iranian relationship (and north Korean missiles) than anyone I know.

Please see the press piece below. I cannot beat on this drum enough; there is a clear and longstanding relationship between North Korea and Iran that involves nuclear weapons (HEU), ballistic missiles, and conventional weapons.  But there is no (zero) "assistance" going from Iran to North Korea. This is simply a buyer-seller relationship - with North Korea being the seller and Iran the buyer.  There are most certainly Iranian missile experts in North Korea - there have been Iranian missile experts in North Korea for every single ballistic missile launch Pyongyang has conducted.  But they have been there in the past and are there now to learn and to consider buying a product - not to "offer technical assistance."  Any reporter, scholar, or pundit who states this incorrect assessment simply has not done their research.  It is true that Iran has launched - successfully - satellites in the past.  But they were TWO-STAGE platforms.  And these platforms were launched with a great deal of technical assistance from the North Koreans.  The Iranians are in North Korea right now to see if the DPRK can successfully launch - finally - a three stage, intercontinental, ballistic missile.  If they can, the Iranians will likely pay the North Koreans billions (yes, with a "B") of dollars in hard currency to get this technology (and likely several of the missiles themselves).  This would give the Iranians an ICBM capability.  One they have been wanting for years.  
V/R
Dave



Tuesday, December 11, 2012



Iranian experts at N Korea’s rocket site: report
SEOUL: A group of Iranian missile experts are in North Korea offering technical assistance with a planned long-range rocket launch condemned by the international community, a report said Monday.

The Iranians were invited after Pyongyang’s last rocket launch in April ended in failure, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing a Seoul government official.

“A car seen at the... launch site has been spotted driving back and forth from the accommodation facility nearby. It is believed to be carrying Iranian experts,” Chosun quoted the unnamed official as saying.

“It appears that the connection between the North and Iran in missile (development) dating back to the 1980s is more extensive than previously believed,” the official said. Earlier this month, Japan’s Kyodo news agency quoted a western diplomatic source as saying Iran had stationed defence staff in North Korea since October to strengthen cooperation in missile and nuclear development.
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Thursday, December 6, 2012

‘Iran gives N. Korea missile boost’ Two pariah states reportedly increasing bilateral cooperation on weapons


I received these very important comments and analysis from one of our best Korea Hands regarding the Korea Herald article below on Iranian-north Korean cooperation.

Interesting quote below - but not accurate. Yes, there are Iranian rocket technicians in the DPRK - but they are there to learn, not to "help prepare." Iran does not have a three-stage missile yet - they plan to buy this one.

"Pyongyang has invited foreign experts for technological assistance to fix defects responsible for its failure in April, government sources told the local media. 

Since this summer, a few Iranian rocket technicians have reportedly stayed in the North to help prepare for a new long-range rocket launch slated for Dec. 10-22."

Now, the quote below is just funny. Iran DOES NOT HAVE any inter-continental ballistic missiles. And the only long-range missiles they have, they bought from North Korea! So, how could they have "better technology?"


Their satellite was a TWO-STAGE platfrom - and one of the stages was obviously designed for them by the North Koreans. Are these reporters just making this stuff up as they go along?

"Iran is known to have better technology in terms of the development of long-range rockets including inter-continental ballistic missiles while the North is a little ahead of Iran in terms of technology to develop nuclear arms and short- and mid-range missiles."

North Korea may have secured the help of rogue Ukraine scientists.  That is a much more viable theory as to why they believe they have corrected issues with their last missile launch.  The "Iran connection" is quite simply proliferator (North Korea) and customer (Iran).  It is silly for anyone to assume (based on zero evidence) that Iran is "helping" North Korea with their missile programs - in fact, it is quite the opposite (it is North Korea selling Iran the technology).
 
V/R
Dave

‘Iran gives N. Korea missile boost’
Two pariah states reportedly increasing bilateral cooperation on weapons


http://nwww.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20121204000966

Published : 2012-12-05 00:22
Updated : 2012-12-05 00:34

Since its botched rocket launch in April, North Korea has been upgrading its missile technology with assistance from foreign countries reportedly including Iran. 

Pyongyang has invited foreign experts for technological assistance to fix defects responsible for its failure in April, government sources told the local media.

Since this summer, a few Iranian rocket technicians have reportedly stayed in the North to help prepare for a new long-range rocket launch slated for Dec. 10-22.

Though the communist state has made strides in missile technology, experts say that it has yet to secure key technology required to control the speed and direction of a long-range rocket following its lift-off.

Seoul officials presume that Iranian experts might have helped the North gain the much-needed technology.

It is said that Tehran and Pyongyang, both under international sanctions for their controversial nuclear programs, have cooperated on missile development for several decades. 

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