Showing posts with label Refugees. Show all posts
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Friday, December 27, 2013

Defector trickle could become a flood: Chung

This brings up an important point on why we (the ROK in particular and in the lead  but the US as well as part of the ROK/US Alliance) need to prepare for north Korean instability and collapse.  The obvious preparation per this article is to be able to deal with a massive exodus of north Koreans.  On the surface this is a very complex problem in isolation and one that will severely challenge the ROK government.  But unfortunately this problem cannot be viewed or addressed in isolation.  If large numbers of north Koreans to include members of the elite begin an exodus we have to be concerned the fact that in order for this to occur there will have to be a severe breakdown of the security apparatus and/or the Kim Family Regime's ability to control the apparatus.  The implications are enormous and could lead to many scenarios occurring (and of course best laid out in Bob Collins' Seven Phases of Collapse).  It would have been nice to have been making the preparations (and not just plans)  for the last 17 years when they were first recommended but its still not too late too start (and fortunately some such as the north Korean defector organizations have been trying to prepare the north Korean people with their influence campaign but they could sure use some help).    
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Defector trickle could become a flood: Chung

‘There are 25 million North Koreans. We have to ask whether we could accommodate a surge or not.’


Dec 28,2013
The purge and execution of Jang Song-thaek could set off a massive exodus of people from North Korea, according to Chung Ok-nim, the newly appointed President of the North Korean Refugees Foundation.

The second head of the three-year-old organization under the Ministry of Unification, which helps settle North Korean defectors in the South, said in an interview with Korea JoongAng Daily on Dec. 19 that the South Korean government should be prepared for a possible flood of North Koreans escaping to the South, including some members of the elite surrounding Jang and his nephew, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

“The instability of Kim Jong-un’s rule could lead to a sudden political upheaval or an unnecessary provocation against South Korea,” Chung said. “So far, most of the people escaping North Korea were ordinary people, but if several members of the power elite begin seeking asylum, it could trigger an exodus.

“In that case, we should be prepared to settle a flood of defectors based on the know-how we have learned so far,” she said.

Whether South Korea could actually handle such an exodus is an open question, she said.

“An average of 1,500 to 1,800 North Koreans come to the South annually,” she said, “and we have a total of about 26,000 defectors. But there are 25 million people in North Korean territory. We should ask ourselves whether the current settlement system would still function in an emergency and whether we could accommodate such a surge of defectors or not.”

The 53-year-old former Saenuri Party lawmaker is also a specialist in North Korean affairs with experience as a visiting scholar to the Hoover Institute at the Stanford University. She worked as a member of the National Assembly’s Intelligence Committee, where lawmakers could access information by the top spy agency about North Korea. In 2012, she was selected as a spokeswoman for President Park Geun-hye’s presidential campaign.

Chung was appointed president of the foundation in November, which has an annual budget of 26 billion won ($24.6 million) to help North Korean defectors settle in the South.

Asked if a rebellion or revolution of the masses was possible in North Korea, Chung answered cautiously.

“Although I am unable to say ‘never,’ the possibility of a rebellion from the bottom would be quite low,” she said. “Possibly, the inner-circle elite could plot a rebellion, but we can’t imagine a second Jasmine Revolution in North Korea at the moment.” (The Jasmine Revolution was the anti-autocracy rebellion in Tunisia that started the Arab Spring of democracy movements.)

“People can’t express their complaints about Kim Jong-un for fear of being executed, but there have to have been big changes in the country,” she said. “But in order for the regime to collapse, we need more factors.” 
(Continued at the link below)

Thursday, October 17, 2013

Discard NK Refugee Exodus Concerns

I think that this and the host of other articles recently coming out on north Korea instability and collapse, sudden change, coups, civil war, humanitarian assistance and refugees are in response to the recent report from RAND by Dr. Bruce Bennett on Preparing for the Possibility of a north Korean Collapse.  

While I would agree with Hyeon Seoung Il that we should not "…end up taking the prevention of sudden situations or [North Korean] systemic security as the fundamentals of our North Korea policy” I do not think that we are arguing for such a policy.  

With all due respect to Dr. Hyeon I think his indirect criticism of Dr. Bennett's report and those of us so-called "Collapsists" falls into the same group of the other recent line of critics who have not fully read Dr. Bennett's report nor understand conducting contingency planning and making preparation for the worst case scenarios rather than simply hoping for the scenarios that we would like to occur.  As I have stated many times, I too hope for peaceful reunification or a new leadership in Pyongyang that will reform the north and open it up and become a responsible member of the international community and will welcome it very much if either of those scenarios occurs but I also believe that we have a responsibility to plan and prepare for the range of possible events and one of the most dangerous and complex will be regime collapse.  I would be very happy if we could entice Kim Jong-un to change and follow the path of China.  I am willing to accept that if it happens and I am willing to help provide the opportunity to allow that to happen but I do not think it will.  

Just a couple of comments on Dr. Bennett's report.

He is not predicting when or even if the Kim Family Regime will collapse only arguing that if it does it could be very complex and dangerous.  He argues that because of the complexity and danger that we (and he is talking about the ROK/US Alliance as we) have an obligation to prepare for it.  Furthermore, he also argues that many of the same preparations for regime collapse will also support peaceful reunification should another scenario occur.

He has conducted extremely useful and valuable analysis.  He is not arguing for making the preparation for collapse the basis of policy and he is not supporting the idea that we should not engage the north or that we should just have a containment policy and just wait until the regime collapses. Those are the arguments of the naysayers of collapse and those who have not read the report.

Paradoxically, many of the preparations for collapse could also be effective in helping to influence reform and following a Chinese-like reform path with north Korean characteristics.  And if reform does not occur and collapse does, then we will have made the attempt to help and conducted the necessary preparations to somewhat  mitigate the fallout from regime collapse.  The bottom line is that preparing for regime collapse and engaging and trying to influence reform and opening in the north does not have to be an either/or proposition but can be both/and.

And the most important contribution that Dr. Bennett has made is to get people talking about and trying to understand the complex problem of regime collapse which will hopefully drive people to begin preparations.

Discard NK Refugee Exodus Concerns

By Lee Sang Yong
[2013-10-16 20:12 ]
http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00100&num=11086
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▲ Today’s event on the dangers of sudden change in North Korea, hosted by Korea Policy Research Center and the National Development Institute on October 15th. (ⓒDailyNK)
With the exception of war or a massive natural disaster, it is unlikely that substantive change in North Korea would create huge outflows of refugees. That was the conclusion reached by a senior researcher with the Institute for National Security Strategy, Hyeon Seong Il, at a seminar hosted by Korea Policy Research Center and the National Development Institute on October 15th. 

“If we overstate the probability of mass refugee flows or get caught up in a mentality of worrying about the harm that such a thing could do, we could end up taking the prevention of sudden situations or [North Korean] systemic security as the fundamentals of our North Korea policy,” Hyeon cautioned,

“Rather than conflict between two massive factions of a sort that might precipitate a large exodus of refugees, there is a general relationship of antagonism between the minority and the majority [in North Korea],” he went on to assert. 

“North Korean policy to date has shown us that, in the event that the winner is the minority, the large-scale exit of the majority can be deterred,” he said. Conversely, “If the current majority were to emerge the victor then the minority could leave in order to avoid revenge attacks. However, that would not require a massive exodus.”
(Continued at the link below)

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